Health Care Reform Passes!

[1inStripes]

If Abe Lincoln was a politician today, he'd be a Democrat too....the Democrats and Republicans has essentially traded identities they held in 1860. I realize that was something you quoted and I couldn't find the original quote...but every time I hear someone remind me Abe Lincoln was a Republican in an effort to promote the "virtues" of the GOP, I laugh in their face.

Very true. Most findings show the shift around WW2 to 1960 as being that shift in political ideaology.

Lincoln truly is misunderstood IMO, and that helps the impression left of his legacy.

[Biggin]

the shift was right around the Civil Rights Movement.

After 1970, it was basically a switch. The modern Democrats are more closely linked to pre-WWII Republicans, while the modern GOP falls more in line with pre-WWII Dems.

I just hate that this bill has caused so much partisianship. With acclaimed senators like McCain, a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, says that the GOP will refuse to even work with the Dems after this, what does that say about the GOP, and our country in general?
That if we dont get exactly what we want, we should just refuse to participate? Instead of trying to compromise and work thru it, we should just give up, and refuse to cooperate???

Thats the scariest part. I know I fall more in line with liberal ideology, and I know what I am about to say will just be shrugged off as GOP-bashing, but its the truth.

If the GOP does not get exactly what it wants when it wants, it resorts to fear mongering hate and childish behavior like name calling and refusing TO DO THEIR JOBS because the majority passed a bill they don't like.

[sup-rbeast]

the shift was right around the Civil Rights Movement.

After 1970, it was basically a switch. The modern Democrats are more closely linked to pre-WWII Republicans, while the modern GOP falls more in line with pre-WWII Dems.

I just hate that this bill has caused so much partisianship. With acclaimed senators like McCain, a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, says that the GOP will refuse to even work with the Dems after this, what does that say about the GOP, and our country in general?
That if we dont get exactly what we want, we should just refuse to participate? Instead of trying to compromise and work thru it, we should just give up, and refuse to cooperate???

Thats the scariest part. I know I fall more in line with liberal ideology, and I know what I am about to say will just be shrugged off as GOP-bashing, but its the truth.

If the GOP does not get exactly what it wants when it wants, it resorts to fear mongering hate and childish behavior like name calling and refusing TO DO THEIR JOBS because the majority passed a bill they don't like.

The shift was in full swing during FDR's Presidency..and that was before WWII.by the time of the Civil Rights movement the shift was more or less complete.

[R13]

Washington (CNN) - Support for the health care reform bill has increased as a result of Sunday's approval the legislation by the House, according to three national polls conducted after the vote.

Two of the surveys, by CBS News and Quinnipiac University, asked virtually the same question about health care both before and after Sunday's vote, and in both polls support for the legislation rose by four to five percentage points.

USA Today/Gallup, the third poll conducted after the vote, did not ask the same question as they did before action by the House, but their results are generally consistent with the indication in the other polls that support for the health care bill has gone up.

How many people now support the health care bill? That is trickier to say because the polls asked very different questions.

USA Today/Gallup asked whether Americans thought "it was a good thing or a bad thing that Congress passed this bill."

This question concentrated on the passage of the bill, not the contents of the bill. Since Americans generally like to see their leaders take action, it's not surprising that this wording produced the highest positive response - 49 percent who approved of the 'passage' of the bill. The Gallup poll indicates that four in 10 say passage of the bill was a bad thing.

CBS asked what Americans thought of "the current health care reform bill." Quinnipiac asked what Americans thought of "the changes in health care passed by Congress." These questions concentrated on the 'contents' of the bill. CBS indicated 42 percent approving of the bill; Quinnipiac indicated 40 percent approval. Forty-six percent of those questioned in the CBS poll disapproved of the bill, with 49 percent of those questioned by Quinnipiac disapproving of the legislation.

"Some of the difference is no doubt due to the fact, noted in several CNN poll, that some Americans opposed the bill because it was not liberal enough." says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "It's likely that people in this group still dislike the contents of the bill, but are pleased that a Democratic Congress got something done on this issue."

The USA Today/Gallup poll was conducted Monday, the day after the House vote. The CBS News and the Quinnipiac University surveys were conducted Monday and Tuesday.

Tuesday, President Obama signed into law the health care legislation passed last year by the Senate and Sunday by the House. The House also passed a package of fixes that were added by House Democrats to the Senate health care reform bill. The fixes were passed by the Senate on Thursday, with some slight alterations. The House was expected to approve the Senate fixes late Thursday.

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Polls indicate support for health care reform up since vote - Blogs from CNN.com

[R13]

Also, the Senate passed the fix bill and it's back in the House being debated on as I type this. The GOP tried to take out the part for student loan funding, sounds about right. It's a shame they aren't serious about this whole thing, they don't have an alternate plan, just to take down whatever the dems have public be damned.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/03/...ex.html?hpt=T1

Final vote should be tonight.